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Since 1998, DPRP has given the visitors of the page and participants in the poll the opportunity to tell us what they think of the pages in general and how they rate the various sub-pages. We also ask for suggestions of improvements. This part of the DPRPoll Results looks into that evaluation.

Visits per Month

The average DPRP visitor comes to the page 12 times per month, which is a slight increase compared to last year's 11 times. Most people visit DPRP one to thirty times per month, but there are also people who visit the pages several times a day !

Rating of DPRP

We asked the participants to give an overall rating to DPRP on a scale from one (very bad) to ten (excellent). On average, the pages got a rating of 8.5, which is the same rating as we got in 2000.

The small majority of the people (55% in 2001, where in 2000 it was 77%) still think that DPRP has improved during 2001. See the table below. The table also shows that, according to most people, the improvement was less substantial compared to the improvement in 2000. This might indicate that DPRP is slowly reaching a stable level of quality.

Change ? Participants Percentage 2001 Percentage 2000
It has improved a lot ! 88 12.1% 30.9%
It has improved a bit 312 42.9% 45.8%
It stayed the same 200 27.6% 12.7%
It's worse than it used to be 23 3.2% 0.6%
No Opinion 101 13.9% 10.0%

By the way, the 32 persons that said that DPRP used to be better in the past still rated the site with an 7.7 on average !

Evaluation of the Various Sub-Pages

Besides an overall rating for DPRP we also asked the participants to tell us which sub-pages they visit on a regular basis and to give a rating to those pages. The results can be found in the table below.

This table includes the percentage of participants that visited the sub-page and the average rating the sub-pages got in past 4 years.

Page Visitors 1998 Visitors 1999 Visitors 2000 Visitors 2001 Rating 1998 Rating 1999 Rating 2000 Rating 2001
CD Reviews 70% 78% 88% 87% 8.0 8.3 8.5 8.5
News 79% 84% 87% 87% 8.3 8.0 8.1 8.4
Releases 61% 55% 61% 51% 7.9 7.8 7.8 7.8
CDelight 39% 45% 56% 47% 7.8 7.9 7.9 7.6
Concert Reviews 45% 43% 43% 47% 7.8 7.8 7.5 7.5
Band Pages 55% 52% 51% 43% 8.2 8.2 8.3 8.1
Prog Links 43% 49% 50% 42% 8.2 8.3 8.3 8.2
Specials 20% 21% 27% 29% 7.6 7.9 8.1 7.8
Counting Out Time N/A 51% 37% 28% N/A 8.9 8.7 8.4
NL Gigs 31% 27% 31% 28% 8.3 8.2 8.1 7.9
Forgoten Sons N/A N/A N/A 21% N/A N/A N/A 7.6
World Gigs 27% 24% 20% 19% 7.7 7.2 7.3 7.0
Vision Pit N/A 14% 11% 14% N/A 7.8 7.3 7.4
Forum 7% 7% 8% 7% 6.9 6.9 6.8 6.7
DPRP Update List - - - - - - 8.7 8.6

Some pages have less visitors than the previous year, but most of the times these are pages that have not been updated all that frequently during the past year. For example, considering the fact that we haven't done anything on Counting Out Time the last 2 years, it still receives an impressive number of visitors.
Forgotten Sons has also conquered its core of prog die-hards that are interested in all these obscure bands from the past. The ratings show a rather stable picture. Only the World Gig Guides seem to need some extra attention.

Favourite Band Page

43% of the participants regularly visit the band pages, and the overall rating for these pages is still very good (8.1). Let's see which band pages are most popular.

Band Page Votes % Visitors 2001 % Visitors 2000
IQ (Lush Attic) 226 31.2% 30.1%
Spock's Beard (Gibberish) 136 18.8% 19.7%
Arena (Medusa's Web) 72 9.9% 17.9%
Pallas 61 8.4% 5.5%
Pendragon 38 5.2% -
Twelfth Night 19 2.6% 1.7%
Kayak 15 2.1% -
Jadis 9 1.2% 2.3%
Monolith 0 0% 0%
No Specific Page/No Vote 119 16.4% 16.6%

Last Year's Wish List

Last year we asked the participants what should be improved or changed abut DPRP. The most mentioned remarks were:

  • More Releases updates (25x)
  • More (frequent) News (19x)
  • More CD reviews (12x)
  • MP3s (on Reviews & Releases page) (11x)
  • More Concert Reviews (9x)
Let's see what we've done about these requests last year ....

Mid 2001 Charlie Farrell has joined the team as new editor for the releases page. He's done several updates so far and we're certain the up-to-dateness of that section of DPRP will improve even further. At the same time Derk has gotten back into the habit of doing a weekly update of the News Page. Every now and then the workload of his 'daytime' job might be a bit of a bottleneck for a full length update, but nevertheless we think he's doing a splendid job at the time.

As far as more CD reviews are concerned, DPRP published 306 reviews in 2000 and 318 in 2001. Personally I think this is a major accomplishment and about the best the team can produce. We basically review all the prog(-related) albums we receive, including several duo and roundtable reviews, and with 1 or 2 updates per week we think there's no reason for complaining. ;-)

As explained in the DPRP FAQ we won't put any MP3s on the site, for several reasons. However, by including links to soundbites with the CD reviews, we think we've solved this issue last year.

Finally, there hasn't been an enormous number of gig reviews in 2001. There's several reasons for this. First of all, there weren't that many major concerts that the DPRP team members themselves visited. Also, we haven't had a lot of input from you, the DPRP readers, either. So if you want more gig reviews, you'd better get writing. Nevertheless Gig Review editor BJ has tried to do one update on each Friday whenever possible for the last couple of months.

Improving DPRP

This year the participants in the DPRPoll 2001 mentioned the following things most often as potential areas for improvement.

  • More (Regular) News (mentioned 27 x)
  • More CD Reviews (mentioned 27 x)
  • Earlier CD Reviews (mentioned 14 x)
  • More Counting Out Time (mentioned 10 x)
  • More Up-to-date Releases Page (mentioned 10 x)

Regarding the News and Releases columns, we have discussed these above and we think that they will continue to improve, the way they have done the last few months.
As in 2000 and 2001 we have plans to resurrect the Counting Out Time column again, but it all depends on the 'regular workload' of the editors if we can find the time to actually do something with the old classic albums again. Rest assured that this one is high on our wish list as well.

There's still some requests regarding the CD Reviews. As mentioned above I think we've got a high enough output with the current pool of +/- 10 reviewers. I do agree with some poll participants that the reviews could sometimes be a bit more 'compact' and that we should refrain from reviewing albums that haven't got anything to do with prog rock. We'll be more critical regarding these criteria than we've been in the past 2 years.
Lot's of people have said that we are still missing some major releases in our reviews. The reason for this is explained in the DPRP FAQ and is basically the same reason why several reviews are often delayed when they finally appear. Since DPRP depends highly on what bands and labels send us, we don't always receive releases on time, and for some bands we don't receive promo copies at all because the concerned label probably doesn't consider DPRP important enough (or whatever). In those cases we depend on the own personal purchases of the reviewers, and you'll understand that our budgets are as limited as any average prog fan. ;-)
Some record labels, like for instance InsideOut, have always been perfect partners, sending out their releases well before the release date, enabling us to prepare the reviews well before the concerned album hits the shops. Other labels however, only send out promo packages once or twice a year. In those cases we will never be able to review those albums before the release date.

Since we have added a couple of extra reviewers to the team, the average lead time for reviewing albums once we have received them should become shorter. Please note though that at any time we've got about 50 albums in the pipeline, which is an average of 5 per reviewer. And since there's only 24 hours in a day .... ;-)

Nevertheless, if you think a specific album should be reviewed on DPRP, feel free to drop the concerned band or label an e-mail and suggest that they send us a promo copy. Under normal circumstances we should be able to review the album in 2 months (which also includes postal lead times of distributing the albums among our international team).

There's been a lot of other suggestions, which can be found by clicking here. We'll try to give feedback on all of these soon.


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For comments about the poll, please e-mail Ed Sander.